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February 8, 2006	Good article nominee	Listed
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Section sizes

Section size for Tom Brady (60 sections)
Section name	Byte count	Section total
(Top)	13,288	13,288
Early life	17,774	17,774
College career	15,538	17,260
College statistics	1,722	1,722
Professional career	24	293,588
Overview	36,908	36,908
New England Patriots	27	204,704
2000–2004: Rookie season and initial Super Bowl runs	63	39,207
2000: Draft and rookie season on the bench	10,522	10,522
2001: Taking over as starter and first Super Bowl victory	16,003	16,003
2002 season	2,797	2,797
2003 and 2004 seasons: Back-to-back Super Bowl wins	9,822	9,822
2005–2008: Beginning of Super Bowl drought and injury	64	29,471
2005 and 2006 seasons	12,423	12,423
2007: Perfect regular season and first MVP	12,307	12,307
2008: Injury	4,677	4,677
2009–2013: Statistical success and continued Super Bowl drought	74	43,330
2009: Return from injury	8,538	8,538
2010: Second MVP	9,217	9,217
2011: Loss in Super Bowl XLVI	12,331	12,331
2012 and 2013 seasons	13,170	13,170
2014–2016: Return to Super Bowl success and Deflategate	66	52,588
2014: Fourth Super Bowl win	9,486	9,486
Deflategate report	13,235	13,235
2015 season	9,826	9,826
Deflategate suspension	6,519	6,519
2016: Fifth Super Bowl win	13,456	13,456
2017–2019: Final years in New England	48	40,081
2017: Third MVP and loss in Super Bowl LII	17,874	17,874
2018–2019: Sixth Super Bowl win and last years with New England	22,159	22,159
Tampa Bay Buccaneers	27	46,667
2020–2022: Seventh Super Bowl win, brief retirement, and final season	80	46,640
2020 season: Seventh Super Bowl win	21,068	21,068
2021 season	15,894	15,894
2022 season: Final season	9,598	9,598
Retirement	5,285	5,285
Broadcasting career	2,986	2,986
NFL career statistics	441	17,841
Regular season	7,283	7,283
Postseason	6,192	6,192
Super Bowl	3,925	3,925
NFL career records	23	18,250
Regular season	6,205	6,205
Playoffs	4,570	4,570
Super Bowl	4,914	4,914
New England Patriots franchise records	1,831	1,831
Tampa Bay Buccaneers franchise records	707	707
Awards and honors	10,570	10,570
Other endeavors	24,476	24,476
Personal life	4,258	31,106
Family and relationships	6,832	6,832
Politics	12,001	12,001
Diet and lifestyle	8,015	8,015
Filmography	19	1,395
Film	262	262
Television	1,114	1,114
See also	421	421
Notes	24	24
References	30	30
External links	2,887	2,887
Total	451,896	451,896

Semi-protected edit request on 17 October 2024

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Edit info box to reflect that Brady is a Minority Owner of the Las Vegas Raiders as of 10/16/24, source- https://www.npr.org/2024/10/16/nx-s1-5154883/tom-brady-las-vegas-raiders-owner-nfl , https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5845866/2024/10/15/tom-brady-las-vegas-raiders-sale-approved/

info box: Cleep603 (talk) 18:13, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not done The infobox is not set up to include this. Hey man im josh (talk) 18:21, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It should be listed anyways. He's the only owner to not feature this. Cramerwiki (talk) 18:20, 5 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Length

At 16k words of readable prose, this article is too long to read and navigate comfortably. See WP:TOOBIG. Detailed content should be condensed or moved to subarticles. Nikkimaria (talk) 01:25, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"Greatest NFL player of all time"

Noting that @VadimFinneran has, 4 times now ([1], [2], [3], [4]), added text to list Brady as the greatest player of all time, as opposed to the greatest quarterback. I believe this is not appropriate, based on the fact comparing players across positions is quite difficult to quantify. Many also argue Jerry Rice, based on the gap between him and all other receivers, Lawrence Taylor based on his dominance, or Jim Brown based on leading the league in rushing 8 of his 9 years playing (including 5 in touchdowns). It's an incredibly difficult thing to quantify, and using Bleacher Report (not considered a reliable source) and a fan vote (from CBS Sports) to label him as such is inappropriate and WP:PUFFERY. Suggesting that we stick with something straight forward, as we have done for years now, and revert to the WP:Status quo/more WP:NPOV phrasing of "Brady is widely regarded as the greatest quaterback of all time", which used 9 references from a variety of sources. I do not want to edit war, as I've reverted them already, but they're refusing to communicate at this point, so I'm starting the discussion here. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:09, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

To be honest, even comparing QBs from different eras is hard to do. Sort of water cooler stuff that's not really encyclopedic unless maybe it's in a "legacy" section of a biography...never a lead section. Comparing greatest players is even more out there in the world of bars and burgers. Fyunck(click) (talk) 18:28, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Couldn't agree more. It's why I typically prefer wording, when we have to insert something like this, as choosing "one of the greatest x position players". Leave some ambiguity because of the differences in eras. Hey man im josh (talk) 18:37, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Rice's page says "For his accomplishments and numerous records, Rice is widely regarded as the greatest wide receiver of all time and one of the greatest players in NFL history" Maybe something like that could be used here. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 15:03, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

For the record, Bluerules restored it back to the longstanding "greatest quarterback".[5] There was no argument put forward in this discusssion in favor of "greatest player" wording, let alone any consensus in its favor. —Bagumba (talk) 07:02, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Incorrect info regarding completions record

In the fourth paragraph of the overview, it says " He is the only NFL quarterback to have 600 passing touchdowns in the regular season. Brady holds regular and postseason records for completions." however the three sources cited only list playoff records, and no source linked indicates what regular season completion record Brady has. 65.25.221.119 (talk) 05:34, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Correct all pros listed

Brady was a 1st team all pro in 2012 and 2016 from TSN. TSN is recognized by the NFL the same as AP. His page needs to correctly list his first team all pros. Farazsyed26 (talk) 16:48, 16 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Farazsyed26: Do you have a reference that shows that The Sporting News selections are recognized in terms of, let's say, HoF candidacy? Hey man im josh (talk) 17:14, 16 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Also providing some sources that do seem to reflect that he was selected these years. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:17, 16 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

This is a problem with all of the pages. People can never agree if the infobox should just be AP-only or if it should include other selectors. Years ago some of the infoboxes actually used to say "AP first-team All-Pro" I think instead of just "First-team All-Pro" but @Lizard the Wizard: (the goat) removed the selectors from the infoboxes. I've never really messed around with the All-Pros in the infoboxes that much because there's never been a firm consensus on how to do it. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 17:23, 16 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

FWIW, the NFL's record book lists TSN and PFWA All-Pros too.[6] With few press agencies now and prominent free news sites using AP feeds, there might be an inflated impression of AP's standing. —Bagumba (talk) 06:11, 17 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Re: HoF candidacy, Fouts' HOF page displays Pro Bowls. As for All-Pro, it calls him "an All-Pro choice in 1979, 1982, and 1985", which seems to correspond only to his 1st team selections, of which 1985 was by NEA only (AP was only 2nd team).[7] But then his profile page was not necessarily tied with his candidacy. I don't think there any "official" qualification list. —Bagumba (talk) 06:28, 17 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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He won 7 Super Bowls 24.45.178.147 (talk) 23:32, 26 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. LizardJr8 (talk) 23:59, 26 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Number of Brady Patriot Super Bowl appearances is incorrect at 11, should be 9.

Change "Brady's successes helping the Patriots set the records for Super Bowl appearances (11) and wins" to "Brady's successes helping the Patriots set the records for Super Bowl appearances (9) and wins" RealityDistrict9 (talk) 16:27, 27 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Article is correct. The Patriots have been to 11 Super Bowls. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 17:55, 27 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry RealityDistrict9 (talk) 22:58, 27 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Birmingham Phoenix Cricket

Knighthead Capital, the US group that includes legendary NFL quarterback Brady, then agreed to buy 49% in Birmingham Phoenix. Knighthead invested in Birmingham City Football Club in 2023. 2A06:5906:1A15:D300:58C4:F8C3:5617:CDAD (talk) 03:19, 1 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]